Minutes interim-2007-iesg-21 2007-11-29 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the November 29, 2007 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
    Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
    Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
    Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
    Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Alice Hagens (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Sam Hartman (MIT) / Security Area
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
    Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Amy Vezza (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Dave Ward (IEng) / Routing Area
    Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

    REGRETS
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    Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
    Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
    Nora Duhig (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Barbara Fuller (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
    Dinara Suleymanova (NSS) / IETF Secretariat

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the November 15, 2007 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives.

    The narrative minutes of the November 15, 2007 Teleconference
    were approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes
    in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved since the November 15, 2007 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-avt-profile-savpf-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-behave-multicast-12.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-inter-domain-pd-path-comp-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-dhc-server-override-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-iptel-tgrep-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-admin-tags-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-manet-iana-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-mpls-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-wilde-text-fragment-09.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-ietf-behave-p2p-state-06.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-eap-netsel-problem-09.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-ippm-bw-capacity-05.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-diffserv-class-aggr-07.txt (Informational)
    o draft-taylor-megaco-obsol3525-01.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Lisa Dusseault to find an author to update RFC 3406.
    o Jari Arkko to write an explaination of IESG policy of
    when ADs can request documents be considered by the IESG
    before the Last Call has ended.
    o Chris Newman to draft a policy on Autoresponse Messages
    sent to any IETF mailing list.
    o Cullen Jennings to get a response from the AVT WG to help
    solve an IANA Registration issue for wave-avi-codec-registry
    [IANA # 97962]

    NEW:

    NONE

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis-13.txt - 1 of 9
    Session Traversal Utilities for (NAT) (STUN) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Lars Eggert, Cullen Jennings, Chris Newman, and Tim Polk.*

    o draft-ietf-geopriv-revised-civic-lo-06.txt - 2 of 9
    Revised Civic Location Format for PIDF-LO (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Cullen Jennings and Tim Polk.*

    o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-ldpc-07.txt - 3 of 9
    Low Density Parity Check (LDPC) Staircase and Triangle Forward Error
    Correction (FEC) Schemes (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-rs-05.txt - 4 of 9
    Reed-Solomon Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement
    that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Magnus Westerlund.

    o draft-ietf-smime-bfibecms-08.txt - 5 of 9
    Using the Boneh-Franklin and Boneh-Boyen identity-based encryption
    algorithms with the Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Tim Polk

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-smime-ibearch-06.txt - 6 of 9
    Identity-based Encryption Architecture (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Tim Polk

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Sam Hartman, Russ Housley, Cullen
    Jennings, and Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-rfc3119bis-05.txt - 7 of 9
    A More Loss-Tolerant RTP Payload Format for MP3 Audio (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Cullen Jennings. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-avt-rfc2833biscas-05.txt - 8 of 9
    Definition of Events For Channel-Oriented Telephony Signalling
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-solution-03.txt - 9 of 9
    Mobile IPv4 Traversal Across IPsec-based VPN Gateways (BCP)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Sam Hartman, Russ Housley, Tim Polk.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-mip4-mobike-connectivity-03.txt - 1 of 1
    Secure Connectivity and Mobility using Mobile IPv4 and MOBIKE (BCP)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Tim Polk.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-klensin-unicode-escapes-07.txt - 1 of 1
    ASCII Escaping of Unicode Characters (BCP)
    Token: Chris Newman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-manet-jitter-03.txt - 1 of 1
    Jitter considerations in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs) (Informational)
    Token: Ross Callon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Mark Townsley.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-korhonen-mip6-service-05.txt - 1 of 1
    Service Selection for Mobile IPv6 (Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (12/20/2007).

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-jayasumana-reorder-density-08.txt - 1 of 2
    Reorder Density and Reorder Buffer-occupancy Density - Metrics
    for Packet Reordering Measurements (Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Lars Eggert.

    o draft-irtf-mobopts-l2-abstractions-04.txt - 2 of 2
    Unified L2 Abstractions for L3-Driven Fast Handover (Experimental)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Jari Arkko.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-irtf-tmrg-metrics-11.txt - 1 of 1
    Metrics for the Evaluation of Congestion Control Mechanisms (Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Lars Eggert.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use

    6. Management Issues
    6.1 RFC Editor Errata Reports (Russ Houlsey)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.2 xml submissions after draft approvals (Jari Arkko)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG and RFC Editor
    discussed submission of XML source files to the RFC Editor
    after the document has been approved. It has been observed
    that authors sometimes make mistakes in this submission. The
    RFC Editor checks for surprising or substantial changes from
    the text version and asks for AD approval in AUTH48 if there
    are any. It was suggested that a policy might be implemented
    requiring the submission of exactly the same draft content as
    was approved. However, it was decided that its desirable to
    receive author contact information changes and other edits that
    are sometimes entered in this stage. The current systems appears
    to be working to catch inappropriate edits.

    6.3 RFC3588 vendor-specific command codes (Dan Romascanu)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.4 Approval of IESG Policy on Autoresponse Messages Sent to
    IETF Mailing Lists (Chris Newman)

    The management issue was not discussed. Chris Newman requested
    this management issue be included on the agenda for the next
    teleconference (12/20/2007).

    6.5 Date for the Last IESG Teleconference of the year (Dan Romascanu)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to change
    the date of the final teleconference for 2007 to December 20, 2007.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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    * Please see the ID Tracker
    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
    on documents that are under discussion by the IESG