Minutes interim-2005-iesg-19 2005-09-29 15:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the September 29, 2005 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Brian Carpenter / IBM
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / IAB
    Marshall Eubanks / MultiCast
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Sam Hartman / MIT
    Scott Hollenbeck / Verisign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Shinkuro, Inc.
    Dave Meyer / Cisco/University of Oregon (IAB Liaison)
    Ray Pelletier / ISOC
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / RFC Editor
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Mark Townsley / Cisco
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Barbara Roseman / ICANN (IANA)
    Nicholas Staff / IndyMac Bank

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the September 15, 2005 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives

    1.2 Documents Approved since the September 15, 2005 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-iab-iesg-iaoc-selection-03.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-amrwbplus-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-framing-contrans-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-fr-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-hdlc-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-nntpext-authinfo-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-nntpext-tls-nntp-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pwe3-control-protocol-17.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-secsh-newmodes-05.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-05.txt (Informational)
    o draft-garcia-sipping-poc-isb-am-04.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Sam Hartman to assemble WGChairs discussion of proposal to announce
    internet drafts when they become WG items for re-review.

    NEW:

    o Sam Hartman to draft a message to IANA appointing Ken Raeburn as the
    IANA Expert for RFC 3961. He will send the message to the Secretariat,
    and the Secretariat will forward the message to IANA with a copy to the
    IESG.
    o Brian Carpenter to send the summary of the expertise desired of the
    candidates selected for open IESG positions, including the ADs for the
    new RAI Area, to the Secretariat. The IETF Executive Director will
    forward the summary to the NomCom.
    o Russ Housley to prepare a message to the IETF Announcement List
    rescinding the approval of draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04. The Secretariat
    will send the message to the list on behalf of the IESG with a copy to
    the RFC Editor.

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-l3vpn-bgp-ipv6-07.txt - 1 of 9
    BGP-MPLS IP VPN extension for IPv6 VPN (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-ipoib-dhcp-over-infiniband-10.txt - 2 of 9
    DHCP over InfiniBand (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-idr-rfc2796bis-01.txt - 3 of 9
    BGP Route Reflection - An Alternative to Full Mesh IBGP (Draft Standard)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Brian Carpenter, Sam Hartman, and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-12.txt - 4 of 9
    IRIS - An Address Registry (areg) Type for the Internet Registry Information
    Service (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Brian Carpenter, Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, and
    Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-l3vpn-rt-constrain-02.txt - 5 of 9
    Constrained VPN Route Distribution (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Alex Zinin.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 9
    - draft-ietf-sipping-reason-header-for-preemption-04.txt
    Extending the Session Initiation Protocol Reason Header for Preemption
    Events (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-sip-resource-priority-10.txt
    Communications Resource Priority for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin

    The documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
    Editor Note prepared by Allison Mankin.

    o draft-ietf-bridge-ext-v2-07.txt - 7 of 9
    Definitions of Managed Objects for Bridges with Traffic Classes, Multicast
    Filtering and Virtual LAN Extensions (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note prepared by Bert Wijnen.

    o draft-ietf-ldapbis-bcp64-05.txt - 8 of 9
    IANA Considerations for LDAP (BCP)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bill Fenner, Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-rohc-rfc3242bis-01.txt - 9 of 9
    RObust Header Compression (ROHC): A Link-Layer Assisted Profile for
    IP/UDP/RTP (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note prepared by Allison Mankin.

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-agent-ipsec-02.txt - 1 of 2
    Authentication of DHCP Relay Agent Options Using IPsec (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-dhc-3315id-for-v4-05.txt - 2 of 2
    Node-Specific Client Identifiers for DHCPv4 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-gray-rfc1888bis-02.txt - 1 of 2
    Internet Code Point Assignments for NSAP Addresses (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, and Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-carpenter-bcp101-update-02.txt - 2 of 2
    BCP101 Update for IPR Trust (BCP)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    Brian Carpenter formally recused himself from the discussion. The
    document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-opes-smtp-use-cases-03.txt - 1 of 3
    OPES SMTP Use Cases (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-secsh-publickeyfile-09.txt - 2 of 3
    SSH Public Key File Format (Informational)
    Token: Sam Hartman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-iab-ieee-802-rel-01.txt - 3 of 3
    The IEEE 802/IETF Relationship (Informational)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    Brian Carpenter formally recused himself from the discussion. The
    IESG evaluated the document and has no objection to the IAB submitting
    it to the RFC Editor for publication.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-rharrison-lburp-04.txt - 1 of 4
    LDAP Bulk Update/Replication Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o Three-document ballot: - 2 of 4
    - draft-nguyen-ospf-lls-05.txt
    OSPF Link-local Signaling (Experimental)
    - draft-nguyen-ospf-oob-resync-05.txt
    OSPF Out-of-band LSDB resynchronization (Informational)
    - draft-nguyen-ospf-restart-05.txt
    OSPF Restart Signaling (Informational)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    Alex Zinin formally recused himself from the discussion. The documents
    remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
    by Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-maino-fcsp-02.txt - 3 of 4
    Use of IKEv2 in The Fibre Channel Security Association Management
    Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-smith-oma-urn-00.txt - 4 of 4
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the Open Mobile Alliance
    (OMA) (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Widget Description Exchange Service (widex) - 1 of 2
    Token: Scott Hollenbeck

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (10/13/2005).

    o Lightweight Reachability softWires (ltr) - 2 of 2
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending
    updated text to the charter from Mark Townsley. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the
    agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (10/13/2005).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Ad-Hoc Network Autoconfiguration (autoconf) - 1 of 2
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to
    the charter to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Mobile Nodes and Multiple Interfaces in IPv6 (monami6) - 2 of 2
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use
    6. Management Issues
    6.1 Appointing RFC 3961 IANA expert (Sam Hartman)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken
    Raeburn as the IANA Expert for RFC 3961.
    Action item: Sam Hartman will draft the message to IANA
    appointing Ken Raeburn as the IANA Expert for RFC 3961,
    and will send the message to the Secretariat. The
    ecretariat will forward the message to IANA with a
    copy to the IESG.

    6.2 Request to remove Dean Anderson's posting privileges
    to the IETF & dnsop mail lists (David Kessens)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG received a
    request from Dave Crocker to take action under RFC 3683
    against Dean Anderson. David Kessens will shepherd this
    request. The IESG noted that individual WG Chairs have
    the right to suspend posting rights under RFC 3934.

    6.3 Discuss and potentially approve RAI area (Ted Hardie)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved,
    via an override vote, the formation of the Real-Time
    Applications and Infrastructure (RAI) Area.

    David Kessens voted against the creation of this new area
    because he has serious concerns that the current IESG is
    already too large to operate efficiently. He felt that
    the IESG should have studied possible alternatives that
    would have no need for additional ADs.

    Brian Carpenter stated that the IESG had to decide immediately
    due to the NomCom schedule but that we should indeed study
    organizational and operational steps to improve IESG
    efficiency, with the aim of finalizing changes in an IESG
    Retreat next spring.

    6.4 RAI and message to NomCom (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed on the
    text of the summary for the NomCom regarding the expertise
    desired of the candidates selected for open IESG positions.
    Action item: Brian Carpenter will send the summary of the
    expertise desired of the candidates selected for open IESG
    positions, including the ADs for the new RAI Area, to the
    Secretariat. The IETF Executive Director will forward the
    summary to the NomCom.

    6.5 Pull draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04 from RFC Editor's Queue (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved pulling
    draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04 from the RFC Editor's Queue.
    Action item: Russ Housley will prepare a message to the IETF
    Announcement List rescinding the approval of draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04.
    The Secretariat will send the message to the list on behalf of the IESG
    with a copy to the RFC Editor.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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    * Please see the ID
    Tracker(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for detailson
    documents that are under discussion by the IESG.