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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the December 2, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Sam Hartman / MIT
    Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Shinkuro, Inc.
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
    ------------
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Aaron Falk / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat

    MINUTES
    ---------------

    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the November 18, 2004 Teleconference
    were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes
    in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the November 18, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-grow-collection-communities-06.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-sip-anat-usage-00.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-shanmugham-mrcp-05.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-analysis-11.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-nsis-signalling-analysis-05.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-earnshaw-tv-anytime-crid-04.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-sipping-transc-3pcc-02.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-capwap-arch-06.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward
    with his I-D on IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG
    points for it.
    o Harald Alvestrand to suggest modified text for the standard
    "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes a pointer
    to the comments in the
    I-D Tracker.
    o Allison Mankin to send a message to the WG Chairs mailing
    list regarding checking the IPR disclosures list for new
    disclosures.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is
    desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision.
    o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type
    review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified
    in the MIME registration procedures.
    o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and
    IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents.
    o Bert Wijnen to be AAA parameter expert for IANA until he finds a proper expert.

    NEW:

    o Allison Mankin to talk to Geoff Huston about reopening his Quality of Service RFC.

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-l3vpn-ospf-2547-02.txt - 1 of 4
    OSPF as the Provider/Customer Edge Protocol for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-magma-mrdisc-03.txt - 2 of 4
    Multicast Router Discovery (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 3 of 4
    - draft-iab-liaison-mgt-02.txt
    IAB Processes for management of liaison relationships (BCP)
    - draft-baker-liaison-statements-02.txt
    Procedure for Handling Liaison Statements Between Standards Bodies (BCP)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley, Allison Mankin, and Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-rfc2793bis-09.txt - 4 of 4
    RTP Payload for Text Conversation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
    Editor Note.

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o Eight-document ballot: - 1 of 5
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-implementation-02.txt
    BGP 4 Implementation Report (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-26.txt
    A Border Gateway Protocol 4 (BGP-4) (Draft Standard)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mib-15.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for the Fourth Version of Border Gateway
    Protocol (BGP-4) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-vuln-01.txt
    BGP Security Vulnerabilities Analysis (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-analysis-06.txt
    BGP-4 Protocol Analysis (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-experience-protocol-05.txt
    Experience with the BGP-4 Protocol (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-mibagent-survey-02.txt
    BGP MIB V1 implementation survey (Informational)
    - draft-iesg-tcpmd5app-01.txt
    Standards Maturity Variance Regarding the TCP MD5 Signature Option
    (RFC 2385) and the BGP-4 Specification (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents were approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-sntp-01.txt - 2 of 5
    Simple Network Time Protocol Configuration Option for DHCPv6 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-08.txt - 3 of 5
    Unique Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-inet-tunnel-mib-03.txt - 4 of 5
    IP Tunnel MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
    Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2013-update-04.txt - 5 of 5
    Management Information Base for the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-dna-goals-03.txt - 1 of 3
    Detecting Network Attachment in IPv6 Goals (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-multi6-multihoming-threats-02.txt - 2 of 3
    Threats relating to IPv6 multihoming solutions (Informational)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, Allison Mankin,
    and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-mboned-ipv6-multicast-issues-01.txt - 3 of 3
    IPv6 Multicast Deployment Issues (Informational)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Allison Mankin, and Margaret Wasserman.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-arkko-pppext-eap-aka-14.txt - 1 of 4
    Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for 3rd Generation
    Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA) (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-haverinen-pppext-eap-sim-15.txt - 2 of 4
    Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for GSM Subscriber Identity
    Modules (EAP-SIM) (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-vandesompel-info-uri-02.txt - 3 of 4
    The 'info' URI Scheme for Information Assets with Identifiers in
    Public Namespaces (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (12/16/2004)
    by Harald Alvestrand.

    o draft-sangug-uci-urn-00.txt - 4 of 4
    Using Universal Content Identifier as Uniform Resource Names (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Harald Alvestrand.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs-07.txt - 1 of 1
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)-H.323 Interworking Requirements (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues
    7.1 Modifying Standard Notice to RFC Editor (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed. The general idea was accepted,
    and the Secretariat was directed to create an example of the
    "no-problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes a link to
    the Detail Info page for the subject document in the public I-D Tracker.

    7.2 Adding IANA Note to Approval Messages (Bill Fenner)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to allow an
    IANA Note to appear in approval messages when necessary.

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    * Please see the ID Tracker
    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
    on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.