Minutes interim-2003-iesg-21 2003-11-20 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the November 20, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the October 30, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Secretariat to send statement to RFC Editor regarding adding RFC
    974 to STD 10.
    o Secretariat to send a note to the IESG mailing list informing the
    ADs that the preliminary agenda for the November 20, 2003 IESG
    Teleconference will be sent on Thursday, November 13, 2003 instead
    of Friday, November 14.
    o Barbara Fuller and Harald Alvestrand to discuss the deadline for
    submission of WG charters for Internal Review during their Tuesday,
    November 4 conference call.
    o Harald Alvestrand to send a note to the IETF Announcement
    list indicating that there was a clerical error in the EDU Team
    charter announcement, and that the community has two weeks to
    review the charter.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
    applications' expectations on the behavior of the DNS system.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Harald Alvestrand to write a proposed update to the IESG
    Teleconference timeline. The update will move submission of items
    for the preliminary agenda to the Thursday before the teleconference,
    and will suggest that the ADs inform the IESG when they wish to
    submit items later than the deadline.

    NEW:

    o Steve Bellovin to summarize changes to requirements for RFCs,
    Internet-Drafts and procedures based on the IPR documents. Steve
    should report back on the next IESG telechat.
    o Harald Alvestrand to send a note for the Secretariat to send to
    the RFC Editor on behalf of the IESG regarding David Jablon's
    request that the IPR WG guidelines document not be published.
    o The Secretariat to send the preliminary agenda for the December
    4, 2003 IESG Teleconference on Wednesday, November 26, 2003, to
    accommodate the US Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-fastreroute-03.txt - 1 of 10
    Fast Reroute Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Tunnels (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-ips-isns-21.txt - 2 of 10
    Internet Storage Name Service (iSNS) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-string-prep-06.txt - 3 of 10
    String Profile for iSCSI Names (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-t-ike-07.txt - 4 of 10
    Negotiation of NAT-Traversal in the IKE (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, and
    Jon Peterson.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ccm-04.txt - 5 of 10
    Using AES CCM Mode With IPsec ESP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-sipping-mwi-03.txt - 6 of 10
    A Message Summary and Message Waiting Indication Event Package
    for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ned Freed and Jon Peterson.*

    o draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-08.txt - 7 of 10
    The Differentiated Services Configuration MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-aes-xcbc-prf-01.txt - 8 of 10
    The AES-XCBC-PRF-128 algorithm for IKE (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-pkix-x509-ipaddr-as-extn-03.txt - 9 of 10
    X.509 Extensions for IP Addresses and AS Identifiers (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (12/04/03) by Alex Zinin.

    o draft-ietf-rmonmib-rmon-oid-assignments-00.txt - 10 of 10
    IANA guidelines for the registry of rmon MIB modules (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-nasreq-13.txt - 1 of 4
    Diameter Network Access Server Application (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-pilc-link-design-14.txt - 2 of 4
    Advice for Internet Subnetwork Designers (BCP)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-boot-11.txt - 3 of 4
    Bootstrapping Clients using the iSCSI Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-logotypes-12.txt - 4 of 4
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Logotypes in X.509
    certificates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-gellens-format-bis-03.txt - 1 of 1
    The Text/Plain Format and DelSp Parameters (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Ned Freed. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-narten-iana-experimental-allocations-05.txt - 1 of 1
    Assigning Experimental and Testing Numbers Considered Useful (BCP)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-04.txt - 1 of 9
    High-Level Requirements for Internet Voice Mail (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-opes-authorization-02.txt - 2 of 9
    Policy, Authorization and Enforcement Requirements of OPES
    (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-opes-threats-02.txt - 3 of 9
    Security Threats and Risks for Open (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-magma-igmpv3-and-routing-05.txt - 4 of 9
    IGMPv3/MLDv2 and Multicast Routing Protocol Interaction
    (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
    Note to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat
    will send a working group submission Document Action
    Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-04.txt - 5 of 9
    Mobility Related Terminology (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-trade-voucher-vtsapi-05.txt - 6 of 9
    Voucher Trading System Application Programming Interface
    (VTS-API) (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 7 of 9
    - draft-ietf-isis-ip-interoperable-01.txt
    Recommendations for Interoperable IP Networks using IS-IS
    (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-isis-iso-interoperable-01.txt
    Recommendations for Interoperable Networks using IS-IS
    (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents were approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
    Note to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement that
    includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-09.txt - 8 of 9
    IPSec Policy Information Base (Informational)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-sipping-aaa-req-03.txt - 9 of 9
    Authentication, Authorization and Accounting Requirements for
    the Session Initiation Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-nsis-req-09.txt - 1 of 4
    Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-name-disc-10.txt - 2 of 4
    iSCSI Naming and Discovery (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-dpd-04.txt - 3 of 4
    A Traffic-Based Method of Detecting Dead IKE Peers (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-magma-snoop-10.txt - 4 of 4
    Considerations for IGMP and MLD Snooping Switches (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement that
    includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2.3 To be assigned
    o draft-earnshaw-tv-anytime-crid-01.txt
    The TV-Anytime Content Reference Identifier (CRID)Uniform Resource
    Locator (Informational)

    The document was assigned to Jon Peterson.

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-rmcgowan-unicode-procs-03.txt - 1 of 3
    A Summary of Unicode Consortium Procedures, Policies, Stability,
    and Public Access (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt - 2 of 3
    User Interface Evaluation and Filtering of Internet Addresses
    and Locators -or- Syntaxes for Common Namespaces (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
    document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
    message to the RFC Editor.

    o draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10.txt - 3 of 3
    What's In A Name:Thoughts from the NSRG (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
    document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
    message to the RFC Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Russ Housley.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-02.txt - 1 of 1
    Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R) Networks
    (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Credential and Provisioning (enroll) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    Leslie Daigle reported that the IAB delivered their response
    to the Tony Hain appeal and did not uphold it. The IAB's
    decision was announced on November 17, 2003. The IAB received
    an acknowledgement from Tony on November 18, 2003.

    7. Management Issues
    7.1 EDU Team Charter (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed. The EDU Team Charter has
    been approved.

    7.2 Telechat Timeline (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was not discussed. The Secretariat will
    place this management issue on the agenda for the next IESG
    Teleconference (12/04/03).

    7.3 Appeal from Dave Meyer regarding the closing of the GROW
    working group. (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed. Leslie Daigle and Rob
    Austein left the teleconference prior to the discussion. The
    IESG decided that it would reach a decision via e-mail, and
    send a response before the next IESG Teleconference (12/04/03).
    The IESG instructed the Secretariat not to take action on
    closing the working group until after the decision on the
    appeal is made.

    7.4 David Jablon and IPR WG guidelines (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed, and Harald Alvestrand
    undertook to draft a note to send to the RFC Editor on behalf
    of the IESG instructing the RFC Editor to go ahead with publication.

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