Minutes interim-2003-iesg-17 2003-09-18 15:30
minutes-interim-2003-iesg-17-200309181530-00

											
Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the September 18, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Jennifer Rodriguez / ICANN
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Wind River
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Randy Bush / IIJ

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the September 4, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Thomas Narten will send his comments on Creating, Rechartering
    and Closing a Working Group to the IESG mailing list.
    o Harald Alvestrand will send a proposed authentication method for
    Liaison Statement submission to the Secretariat.
    o Steve Bellovin will draft a message to the RFC Editor regarding
    the early assignment of an RFC number for draft-housley-ccm-mode.

    DELETED:

    o Steve Bellovin to propose a different document classification
    than the current info/proposed/etc.

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
    and send decision to IESG.
    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when
    Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
    a Lower Level.
    o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim
    document review.
    o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats
    and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
    IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
    working group.


    NEW:
    o Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, and Thomas Narten to work out acceptable
    text to resolve ABNF and SRV issues.
    o Harald Alvestrand to consult with Randy Bush and make sure a policy
    is generated regarding interoperability testing at IETF Meetings.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-08.txt - 1 of 6
    Management Information Base for Telephony Routing over IP (TRIP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 6
    - draft-ietf-sacred-framework-06.txt
    Securely Available Credentials - Credential Server Framework (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-sacred-protocol-bss-08.txt
    Securely Available Credentials Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-mobileip-aaa-nai-06.txt - 3 of 6
    AAA NAI for Mobile IPv4 Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-logotypes-11.txt - 4 of 6
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Logotypes in X.509 certificates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Ned Freed, Ted Hardie, Margaret
    Wasserman, and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-iab-isocbot-00.txt - 5 of 6
    IETF ISOC Board of Trustee Appointment Procedures (BCP)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o Three-document ballot: - 6 of 6
    - draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-mib-13.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for the Multiprotocol Label Switching,
    Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-ftn-mib-08.txt
    Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Forwarding Equivalence Class To Next
    Hop Label Forwarding Entry (FEC-To-NHLFE)Management Information Base (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-te-mib-12.txt
    Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Management
    Information Base (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o Five-document ballot: - 1 of 2
    - draft-ietf-impp-cpim-msgfmt-08.txt
    Common Presence and Instant Messaging: Message Format (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-impp-cpim-pidf-08.txt
    Presence Information Data Format (PIDF) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-impp-pres-03.txt
    Common Profile for Presence (CPP) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-impp-im-03.txt
    Common Profile for Instant Messaging (CPIM) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-impp-srv-03.txt
    Address Resolution for Instant Messaging and Presence (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bill Fenner and Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-webdav-ordering-protocol-10.txt - 2 of 2
    WebDAV Ordered Collections Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-mrose-ietf-posting-03.txt - 1 of 1
    A Practice for Revoking Posting Rights to IETF mailing lists (BCP)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Thomas Narten.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-user-schema-mr-00.txt - 1 of 1
    LDAP: Additional Matching Rules (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission
    Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-send-psreq-03.txt - 1 of 5
    IPv6 Neighbor Discovery trust models and threats (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-ieprep-ets-telephony-06.txt - 2 of 5
    IP Telephony Requirements for Emergency Telecommunication Service (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-iesg-charter-03.txt - 3 of 5
    An IESG charter (Informational)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-warranty-extn-03.txt - 4 of 5
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Warranty Certificate Extension (Informational)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-highspeed-01.txt - 5 of 5
    HighSpeed TCP for Large Congestion Windows (Experimental)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-rfc-editor-rfc2223bis-07.txt - 1 of 2
    Instructions to Request for Comments (RFC) Authors (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-mealling-liberty-urn-00.txt - 2 of 2
    A URN Namespace For The Liberty Alliance Project (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    o draft-siemborski-mupdate-04.txt - 1 of 1
    The MUPDATE Distributed Mailbox Database Protocol (Experimental)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Ned Freed. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    3.2.3 To be assigned
    o draft-baker-soap-media-reg-03.txt
    The 'application/soap+xml' media type (Informational)

    The document was assigned to Ned Freed.

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    o draft-fleming-ldap-printer-schema-02.txt - 1 of 2
    Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP):Schema for Printer Services (Informational)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor.

    o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-05.txt - 2 of 2
    Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3.3 To be Assigned
    o draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt - 1 of 2
    User Interface Evaluation and Filtering of Internet Addresses and
    Locators -or- Syntaxes for Common Namespaces (Informational)

    The document was assigned to Ted Hardie.

    o draft-foster-mgcp-redirect-05.txt - 2 of 2
    Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Redirect and Reset Package (Informational)

    The document was assigned to Jon Peterson.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    o MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization - 1 of 2
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The WG remains under discussion by the IESG. Thomas Narten will
    prepare a revised charter for further IESG review.

    o Storage Transport - 2 of 2
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the draft charter for IETF review pending submission of
    an updated version of the charter, provided by Margaret Wasserman that reflects
    a name change to IP over Fiberchannel (ipofc). The Secretariat will send a
    WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org and place the WG
    on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    o Common Control and Measurement Plane - 1 of 1
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter pending an
    updated charter provided by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a WG Review:
    Recharter announcement, with copies to new-work@ietf.org and to the WG Chairs.
    The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 Appropriate Methods for getting Meeting Minutes from Chairs (Harald Alvestrand)
    This management issue was postponed until the next IESG teleconference by Harald
    Alvestrand.

    7.2 Interoperability Testing at IETF Meetings (Harald Alvestrand)
    This management issue was discussed, and Harald Alvestrand requested that it
    be placed on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    7.3 Nomcom - List of open positions and appoint a Liaison (Harald Alvestrand)
    This management issue was discussed. Bill Fenner agreed to serve as the IESG
    liaison to the Nomcom.

    7.4 Tony Hain Appeal (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed. Rob Austein, Michelle Cotton, Leslie
    Daigle, Thomas Narten, Joyce Reynolds, and Margaret Wasserman left the teleconference
    prior to the discussion. The IESG has made a decision on the appeal, and the
    decision will disclosed in a message to the IETF Announcement list.

    7.5 Todd Glassey Appeal (Bert Wijnen)
    This management issue was discussed. Harald Alvestrand, Rob Austein, Steve
    Bellovin, Michelle Cotton, Leslie Daigle, and Joyce Reynolds left the teleconference
    prior to the discussion. Thomas Narten and Margaret Wasserman rejoined the
    teleconference for discussion of this issue. The IESG has made a decision on
    the appeal, and the decision will be disclosed in a message to the IETF Announcement
    list.

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