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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the June 26, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Dinara Suleymanova, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat
    Randy Bush / IIJ
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Erik Nordmark / Sun
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
    ------------
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent

    MINUTES
    ---------------

    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the June 12, 2003 Teleconference were approved
    pending the removal of Microsoft characters. The Secretariat will
    place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:
    o Allison and Thomas will email Secretariat note to send to RFC
    Editor about 3GPP RFC Editor documents.
    o Ned to write an IESG note for draft-tegen-smqp (Informational).
    o Allison Mankin to submit a Revised Charter for the Next Steps in
    Signaling WG (nsis) to the Secretariat. Secretariat to send a WG Review
    Announcement with copy to new-work@ietf.org.
    o Secretariat to include teleconference bridge/call-in details in
    teleconference packages going forward.

    DELETED:
    o Steve to generate a summary of IESG views of the "problem."

    IN PROGRESS:
    o Allison to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and
    send decision to IESG.
    o Erik to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural
    questions of the IAB.
    o Thomas to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft."
    o Thomas to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB.
    o Steve to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Randy and Ned to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents
    may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level.
    o Alex to send proposal and justification for interim document review.
    o Steve to propose a different document classification than the current
    info/proposed/etc.
    o Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent submissions.
    o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and
    IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG
    consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group.

    NEW:
    o Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes to the
    Secretariat. IESG to review the format of the minutes and propose
    changes to improve readability and communication to the outside world.
    o Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the Sunday
    IESG meeting in Vienna.
    o Thomas Narten to write up issue with references in
    draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt and start discussion in IESG list.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis.txt - 1 of 3
    The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand.
    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points
    raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-13.txt - 2 of 3
    SDP: Session Description Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Peterson, Jon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Ned Freed, Ted Hardie and
    Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-07.txt - 3 of 3
    RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-08.txt - 1 of 3
    The Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-sipping-overlap-04.txt - 2 of 3
    Mapping of Integrated Services Digital Network (ISUP) Overlap Signalling
    to the Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp.txt - 3 of 3
    Link Management Protocol (LMP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Zinin, Alex

    The document was added to the agenda by Alex Zinin and remains under
    discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve
    Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Thomas Narten and Russ Housley.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-10.txt - 1 of 1
    LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Hardie, Ted

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand
    and Bill Fenner.

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-speechsc-reqts-04.txt - 1 of 7
    Requirements for Distributed Control of ASR, SI/SV and TTS Resources
    (Informational)
    Token: Peterson, Jon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is
    needed.

    o draft-ietf-nsis-req-08.txt - 2 of 7
    Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is
    needed.

    o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-restart-applic-01.txt - 3 of 7
    Applicability Statement for Restart Mechanisms for the Label
    Distribution Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Zinin, Alex

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-10.txt - 4 of 7
    Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental)
    Token: Zinin, Alex

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-supp-compact-01.txt - 5 of 7
    Compact Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes (Experimental)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note regarding
    IANA considerations to be prepared by Thomas Narten and Allison Mankin. The
    Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement
    that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 6 of 7
    Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements
    (Informational)
    Token: Freed, Ned

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-v6ops-unman-scenarios-02.txt - 7 of 7
    Unmanaged Networks IPv6 Transition Scenarios (Informational)
    Token: Bush, Randy

    Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin will send comments to the IESG on this
    document.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-multi6-multihoming-requirements-07.txt - 1 of 3
    Goals for IPv6 Site-Multihoming Architectures (Informational)
    Token: Bush, Randy

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-requirements-01.txt - 2 of 3
    Requirements of a QoS Solution for Mobile IP (Informational)
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-05.txt - 3 of 3
    Tracing Requirements for Generic Tunnels (Informational)
    Token: Wijnen, Bert

    The document was approved by the IESG pending confirmation from Alex Zinin
    that Randy Bush approves. Upon notification from Alex Zinin, the Secretariat
    will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-lear-tftp-uri-06.txt - 1 of 1
    URI Scheme for the TFTP Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Hardie, Ted

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission
    Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    o draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt - 1 of 4
    The 'doi' URI Scheme for Digital Object Identifier (DOI) (Informational)
    Token: Hardie, Ted

    The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. The
    Secretariat will send a Do Not Publish note prepared by Ted Hardie to the
    RFC Editor.

    o draft-foster-mgcp-bulkaudits-09.txt - 2 of 4
    The Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Bulk Audit Package
    (Informational)
    Token: Peterson, Jon

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. Jon
    Peterson will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the
    Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor.

    o draft-eastlake-xxx-06.txt - 3 of 4
    .sex Considered Dangerous (Informational)
    Token: Alvestrand, Harald

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The
    Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor.

    o draft-baker-slem-architecture-01.txt - 4 of 4
    Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational)
    Token: Alvestrand, Harald

    The document was assigned to Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will update
    the ID-Tracker.

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks - 1 of 3
    Token: Narten, Thomas

    Thomas Narten and Alex Zinin will send a message to the IETF mailing
    list regarding the formation of the two working groups: Layer 2 Virtual
    Private Networks and Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks. Both working groups
    were approved by the IESG. However, the Secretariat will not send the WG
    Action Announcements until it receives the go-ahead from Alex Zinin.

    o Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks - 2 of 3
    Token: Narten, Thomas

    See decision under Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks

    o Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery - 3 of 3
    Token: Mankin, Allison

    Allison Mankin will provide a revised charter to the IESG for review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action Announcement when Allison Mankin
    confirms that the IESG has approved the new charter.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    o Issues on L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE - added by
    Thomas Narten (discussed)
    o Issues on "problem" group - added by Harald Alvestrand
    (discussed)
    ----------------------------------------

    * Please see the ID Tracker
    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi)
    for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.