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Date and time 1993-01-11 17:00
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING

    January 11th, 1993

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
    iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.

    ATTENDEES
    ---------

    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Chapin, Lyman / BBN
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    Regrets
    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore

    AGENDA
    ------

    1) Administrivia
    o Role Call
    o Bash the Agenda
    o Approval of the Minutes
    - December 21st
    - January 4th

    2) Protocol Actions
    o PEM
    o SMTP Extensions
    o DS1 MIB
    o DS3 MIB

    3) Technical Management Issues
    o IP Addressing Guidelines
    o ROAD Communications

    4) RFC Editor Actions
    o RIP (Wide Area Routing with RIP)
    o BGP Default Route
    o SNMP over Various Protocols

    5) Working Group Actions
    o IP Security (ipsec)
    o Skinny Stack

    MINUTES
    -------

    1) Administrivia

    o Bash the Agenda

    Agenda was adjusted to accommodate the limited participation of Lyman
    Chapin and Steve Crocker.

    o Next Meeting Arrangements

    The IESG will not meet January 18th, a U.S. federal holiday. The next
    meeting will be January 25th.

    o Approval of the Minutes

    The IESG approved the minutes of December 21st. Approval of the
    January 4th minutes was deferred.

    The IESG minutes are made publicly available shortly after being
    approved. The availability of these minutes is not announced to the
    IETF list and there was agreement that periodic announcements should
    be made on the IETF mailing list and the in the Internet Monthly
    Report.

    ACTION: Coya -- Announce the availability of the IESG minutes in the
    IMR and periodically to the IETF mailing list.

    2) Protocol Actions

    o PEM
    Steve Crocker provided the IESG shortly before the meeting with a
    copy of the correspondence between the IAB and the principal patent
    holders for the PEM security technology. Final approval of PEM was
    deferred until the material could be studied.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Incorporate changes suggested into the protocol
    action and send a ballot to the IESG.

    There was discussion on the process by which future protocols using
    patented technology can be handled more efficiently. The IETF needs
    a clear statement of policy and a standard procedure for the next
    issue to arise. IEEE and ANSI procedures were discussed as a
    model. Among the items to be resolved are the establishment of a
    repository for release letters, and a clear understanding of what
    are "reasonable" terms for purposes of standardization.

    o SMTP

    The IESG deferred consideration of the SMTP Extension protocols.

    o DS1 MIB and DS3 MIB

    The IESG approved the revised DS1 and DS3 specifications for
    re-publication as Proposed Standards. The previous versions, RFC
    1233 and RFC 1332 were moved to Historic.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the DS1 and DS3 Protocol Action to the
    IETF-Announce list.

    3) Technical Management.

    o IESG Balloting.

    During the IESG discussion on the SMTP Extensions, an inconsistency
    was noted between the various ballots sent to the IESG. Discussion
    resulted the following ballot choices.

    "Yes" - The specification was explicitly reviewed and no objections
    were found

    "No Objection" - The specification was not reviewed explicitly but a
    review of the protocol action raised no objections

    "Discuss" - A review of the protocol action or the specification
    raised an item of concern which needs to be addressed.

    "Abstain" - A conflict of interest may exist and the IESG member
    choose not to register a vote.

    Eight "Yes" or "No Objection" and no "Discuss" votes will result in
    passage by a protocol.

    o IP Addressing

    A teleconference was scheduled for Wednesday to discuss and reach
    resolution on the status of the IP Addressing Guidelines document.

    ACTION: Gross - Schedule a teleconference to reach closure on the
    status of the IP addressing guidelines document.

    o ROAD Communication

    Stev Knowles sent out a note soliciting comments on whether the IESG
    should make an explicit decision for a particular next IP protocol.
    Emerging consensus seems to be that an early decision in March is
    unwarranted. There is some feeling that all competitors should be
    put in the pressure cooker until they reach a common proposal. There
    was some discussion that a new packet format was not needed at all,
    just a new routing architecture.

    ACTION: Knowles -- When the discussion subsides, send a note to the
    IETF list summarizing any consensus that emerges.

    4) RFC Editor Actions

    o Wide Area Routing with RIP

    There was no discussion on this proposal. This was forwarded by the
    RFC Editor to the IESG to be considered for Proposed Standard.

    o BGP Default Route

    The Internet Draft approved by the IESG and IAB was incomplete,
    missing references and a security considerations section. This was
    not discussed by the IESG.

    o SNMP over [OSI, Appletalk, IPX]

    These documents approved by the IESG contain sections which appear
    to be obsolete given the work in the SNMP Security Working Group.
    The RFC Editor wants to know if they should be updated prior to
    publication. This was not discussed.

    APPENDIX - Action Items taken

    ACTION: Coya -- Announce the availability of the IESG minutes in the
    IMR and periodically to the IETF mailing list.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the DS1 and DS3 Protocol Action to the
    IETF-Announce list.

    ACTION: Gross - Schedule a teleconference to reach closure on the
    status of the IP addressing guidelines document.

    ACTION: Knowles -- When the discussion subsides, send a note to the
    IETF list summarizing any consensus that emerges.