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Date and time 1992-12-14 17:00
Title Minutes interim-1992-iesg-33 1992-12-14 17:00
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING

    December 14th, 1992

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.

    Attendees
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    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
    Chapin, Lyman / BBN

    Regrets
    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Davin, Chuck / Bellcore

    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

    Agenda
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    This teleconference was called to discuss the current IESG plans for
    progressing the various proposals for the next IP.

    MINUTES
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    The IESG began with a review of the current state. The IP criteria
    document edited by Craig Partridge and Frank Kastenholtz, expected to
    be completed by December 15th, is not likely to result in specific
    decision criteria. The document is expected to be a listing of
    issues to be considered. The IESG had committed to reviewing the
    various proposals against the criteria by December 15th.

    The IESG affirmed its position that the choice of the next IP will
    be made as nearly as possible follow the standard IETF standardization
    process of document, implement, and test. To facilitate this work,
    and given the current time constraints, the IESG agreed to review the
    initial specifications for the proposals and release a list of
    comments for each proposal as soon as possible.

    All the proposals lack adequate implementation experience. The IESG
    has requested and affirmed the requirement that by February 15th,
    multiple interoperable implementations be made available for public
    review. This requirement goes beyond that necessary for Proposed
    Standard and is intended to form the basis for comparison of the
    various proposals.

    o "P" Internet Protocol/ Extended IP (PIP/EIP)

    The IESG discussed PIP and observed that the proposal may face
    difficulties in completing the specification, implementation and
    deployment within the timeframe expected from the CIDR short term
    solution. The IESG also observed that PIP appears to have limited
    constituency and will need to demonstrate wider acceptance in the
    near term to be considered a serious contender.

    o TCP/UDP over Bigger Addresses (TUBA)

    The IESG observed that the lack of a well documented deployment and
    transition plan was a shortcoming of the current TUBA work. It is
    not clear from the current proposals when the various portions of the
    Internet will be required to support TUBA and what services will be
    available to hosts which do not support TUBA.

    o Simple IP/ IP Address Encapsulation (SIP/IPAE)

    There is currently no provision for the management of SIP. MIBs for
    the management of SIP and the IPAE transition are needed.

    The IESG discussed the necessity for unique endpoint identifiers, and
    while there was some difficulty reaching a precise definitions, the
    IESG, reached agreement that they were essential for the next IP.
    The definition used for the purposes of this agreement was "A
    globally unique identifier as understood in same sense as IPv4 usage
    of a host address"

    ACTION: Coya, Gross -- Write up the comments agreed to this meeting and
    circulate them to the IESG and the relevant Working Groups.

    Appendix - Summary of Action Items

    ACTION: Coya, Gross -- Write up the comments agreed to this meeting and
    circulate them to the IESG and the relevant Working Groups.